In an interview with Amol Rajan for his BBC podcast, Radical, Edward Enninful says "anti-woke" and anti-diversity rhetoric is having "a moment", and that being super-thin and European are often seen as the beauty norm again in the world of fashion.
Enninful, who has co-founded a new media business called EE72, explains why he left British Vogue and talks about his relationship with his former boss, Anna Wintour.
He also discusses the recent Sydney Sweeney jeans advert after the US fashion retailer American Eagle ran ads with her alongside the words: "Sydney Sweeney has great jeans".
You can listen to the full interview on BBC Sounds: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m002jfd2
You can also watch Radical with Amol Rajan on BBC iPlayer: https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/m002f1d0/radical-with-amol-rajan
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