Last weekend, Finland’s President Alexander Stubb played golf with Donald Trump.
Over the course of several hours they discussed Ukraine and a lot more. Both Trump and US Senator Lindsey Graham praised Stubb’s golf skills.
So is golf diplomacy the way to win over the US president?
Kurt Volker, Donald Trump’s former special representative for Ukraine gives Victoria Derbyshire and Vitaly Shevchenko his thoughts on why teeing up with the president is a good idea.
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